Unpaid student loans in the U.S. have ballooned to more than $1.6 trillion, according to the Federal Reserve. The debt is over double what it was a decade ago. One former Trump Education Department official is arguing the U.S. should be in the business of forgiving loans, not handing them out. A. Wayne Johnson, former chief operating officer for the Department of Education's Student Aid Office, joined Between Bells to talk about his ambitious loan forgiveness plan. Johnson is also asking to be appointed as a Georgia senator next year, when longtime Sen. Isakson vacates his seat at the end of December.